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Benjamin, J's avatar

I don’t think Americans feeling bad for Chinese struggles in the 20th century is the solution to improving American relations with China. Looking at the world through the lens of how everything is the fault of western imperialism is just as dogmatic as any other. The fact of the matter is the Chinese Communist Party is autocratic, anti democratic, nationalistic, while also being fabulously rich. It is not difficult to understand why countries which can provide material comforts and success to their people will enjoy levels of support from their citizens. China is a successful and rich country which shares a long and amazing history including a lengthy period of being the most successful and advanced civilization in the world.

But let’s not mince words here: China’s authoritarianism is a problem, and the reality is our interests do not align with their interests. That will naturally lead to conflict. We should not keel over and accept Chinese narratives because they can claim western imperialism is a root problem. We should confront China where they threaten our interests, and work with them where our interests align. Getting China to stop burning coal is in both countries interests, we should work on that. China conquering Taiwan is not in our interest, we should work to ensure it doesn’t happen.

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Charles Ryder's avatar

One of the justifications one often hears from confrontationalist, neo-Cold Warrior circles in the United States is that "liberals" promised that economic ties would eventually lead to political reform and democratization in China (à la South Korea or Taiwan in the 1980s). They were confident in their predictions of a democratic China (so goes the argument), but where are we now?

But I don't remember much "confidence" about this. It was always more of a hope than a solid prediction. I mean, when did "the liberals" promise Chinese democracy would arrive? 1995? 2012? 2031?

But here's the thing: as long as this powerful, nuclear superstate remains a one party dictatorship, the world's geopolitics are likely to remain strained, stressed and dangerous. So, I still don't see what the alternative is to China's eventual transition to multi-party liberal democracy (Perhaps a nuclear first strike by the US? Air dropping leaflets on China exhorting the people to rise up? The rest of the world simply embargoing a fifth of humanity from participation in the global economy?)

Democratization is still the only plausible solution to the China problem. And yes, it could take a long time.

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