...and vice versa, you know, right? The main difference between Haganah (or Lehi or Irgun) and the PLO (or Hamas) is that the former were politically convenient for the United States and Western Europe to recognize as legitimate (despite, you know, massacres of civilians), while the latter were not (...for massacres of civilians). Ain't …
...and vice versa, you know, right? The main difference between Haganah (or Lehi or Irgun) and the PLO (or Hamas) is that the former were politically convenient for the United States and Western Europe to recognize as legitimate (despite, you know, massacres of civilians), while the latter were not (...for massacres of civilians). Ain't nobody the "good guys" here, so maybe take your crocodile tears elsewhere? Pshhhh!
So you admit the PLO and Hamas massacre civilians? Do you agree with me then that it is not Israel who should be lectured about dehumanization?
Also the main difference between the Lehi/Irgun and Hamas/PLO is that the former hasn’t existed for 70 years or more while the latter continues to slaughter civilians today. But I know you don’t care about murdered children, because you’re a Palestine supporter.
The PLO and Hamas do not AFAIK massacre civilians. The PLO used to be a terrorist organization... like fifty years ago, but now they're for all intents and purposes part of the Israeli government. Are you trying to relitigate the Camp David Accord here? I'm not familiar enough with the history of Hamas to elaborate there, but they certainly aren't doing much cooped up in Gaza.
Your original point was that "Palestinians were slaughtering Jewish children decades before Israel was even established", and yet you failed to point out that Hamas and the PLO *did not exist* back then, which suggests your intention in breaking down my analogy is not entirely in good faith. You could do a lot better if your intention is indeed to try and call out double standards in other people's arguments, you know.
By contrast, of course, Haganah continues to exist (as the IDF) and continues to kill Palestinian children.
If you believe that then you truly know nothing about the PLO and Hamas. The PLO performed many massacred in Lebanon alone, and Hamas was the principal driver behind the suicide bomber campaign during the Second Intifada.
And do you seriously believe that the Palestinians are not capable of slaughtering Jewish children without the PLO and Hamas there to direct them? Because that is far from the case. I suggest you begin your education here:
I agree with you that Palestine massacres civilians and Palestinians have done so before Israel was even founded. And we are discussing it because your friends insist on blaming the victims and accusing those victims of “dehumanizing” their own murderers. Any comments on that?
And indeed you agree that Israel massacres civilians and Zionists have done so before Israel was even founded.
And we are discussing it because you think that I have friends lol. Everyone here is out to get you! We have a group DM plotting you downfall at this exact moment!
Anyway, you mostly seem to dislike that I’m using a consistent standard, since as we all know, applying a double standard to Israel is antisemitic. Are you antisemitic?
...and vice versa, you know, right? The main difference between Haganah (or Lehi or Irgun) and the PLO (or Hamas) is that the former were politically convenient for the United States and Western Europe to recognize as legitimate (despite, you know, massacres of civilians), while the latter were not (...for massacres of civilians). Ain't nobody the "good guys" here, so maybe take your crocodile tears elsewhere? Pshhhh!
So you admit the PLO and Hamas massacre civilians? Do you agree with me then that it is not Israel who should be lectured about dehumanization?
Also the main difference between the Lehi/Irgun and Hamas/PLO is that the former hasn’t existed for 70 years or more while the latter continues to slaughter civilians today. But I know you don’t care about murdered children, because you’re a Palestine supporter.
Congratulations, you broke my analogy.
The PLO and Hamas do not AFAIK massacre civilians. The PLO used to be a terrorist organization... like fifty years ago, but now they're for all intents and purposes part of the Israeli government. Are you trying to relitigate the Camp David Accord here? I'm not familiar enough with the history of Hamas to elaborate there, but they certainly aren't doing much cooped up in Gaza.
Your original point was that "Palestinians were slaughtering Jewish children decades before Israel was even established", and yet you failed to point out that Hamas and the PLO *did not exist* back then, which suggests your intention in breaking down my analogy is not entirely in good faith. You could do a lot better if your intention is indeed to try and call out double standards in other people's arguments, you know.
By contrast, of course, Haganah continues to exist (as the IDF) and continues to kill Palestinian children.
If you believe that then you truly know nothing about the PLO and Hamas. The PLO performed many massacred in Lebanon alone, and Hamas was the principal driver behind the suicide bomber campaign during the Second Intifada.
And do you seriously believe that the Palestinians are not capable of slaughtering Jewish children without the PLO and Hamas there to direct them? Because that is far from the case. I suggest you begin your education here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre?wprov=sfti1
I can see why you gravitate to Peter Beinart. He is short on facts as well.
Congratulations, you agree with me that both sides of the conflict have massacred civilians. What were we arguing about, again?
I agree with you that Palestine massacres civilians and Palestinians have done so before Israel was even founded. And we are discussing it because your friends insist on blaming the victims and accusing those victims of “dehumanizing” their own murderers. Any comments on that?
And indeed you agree that Israel massacres civilians and Zionists have done so before Israel was even founded.
And we are discussing it because you think that I have friends lol. Everyone here is out to get you! We have a group DM plotting you downfall at this exact moment!
Anyway, you mostly seem to dislike that I’m using a consistent standard, since as we all know, applying a double standard to Israel is antisemitic. Are you antisemitic?
I don’t agree with your false claims about Israel, no, and repeating them and lying about my positions won’t make you more convincing.
And you have no friends? That explains a lot.
Have you read that Hebron Massacre article yet? What do you think?