Our guest is Norman Finkelstein, the longtime critic of Israel, and critic of the way the memory of the Holocaust—which both his parents survived—has been exploited to justify Israel’s actions. He has written a new book, titled Gaza’s Gravediggers.
I talked to Norman about what it’s like—after decades as a political outcast—to see his views becoming mainstream. I asked him about his concern, which I share, that legitimate fury at Israel is fueling conspiracy theories that exonerate the United States. And I asked about his friend and mentor, Noam Chomsky, and what he thinks Chomsky might have said in response to October 7 and the Gaza genocide.
Topics include:
The political choices that now confront those who support Palestinian liberation
Zohran Mamdani’s options if Netanyahu comes to NYC
What would be the effect of the US curtailing arms sales to Israel?
Responding to those who believe Israeli Jews should just leave
Why he won’t condemn the the October 7 attacks
