Well, that’s the rub, ain’t it? The rights of non-Jews living in the land under control of a Jewish state? If there were 20 million Jews living in Israel it could grant full rights and citizenship to everyone living there and those who lay claims to the land living elsewhere and still be a Jewish and democratic state by virtue of favorab…
Well, that’s the rub, ain’t it? The rights of non-Jews living in the land under control of a Jewish state?
If there were 20 million Jews living in Israel it could grant full rights and citizenship to everyone living there and those who lay claims to the land living elsewhere and still be a Jewish and democratic state by virtue of favorable demographics. But there are not and so it cannot.
To what extent do the rights of Jews to self-determination impose constraints on and/or supersede that same right for Palestinians? Under liberalism, there is a clear boundary. Under modern zero-sum Zionist ideology—or at least those most assertively claiming to speak for it—Jewish rights in the historic land of Palestine are all but unbounded.
The Ukraine-Russia analogy fails because this element of self-determination versus minority rights is entirely missing.
You are aware that there are eight million ethnic Russians living in Ukraine right Paul? Living in a state that isn’t “for” them? Living as “second class citizen” one might say? The rights of non Ukrainians living in a Ukrainian state.
It’s actually quite a good analogy. Now answer my questions.
Well, that’s the rub, ain’t it? The rights of non-Jews living in the land under control of a Jewish state?
If there were 20 million Jews living in Israel it could grant full rights and citizenship to everyone living there and those who lay claims to the land living elsewhere and still be a Jewish and democratic state by virtue of favorable demographics. But there are not and so it cannot.
To what extent do the rights of Jews to self-determination impose constraints on and/or supersede that same right for Palestinians? Under liberalism, there is a clear boundary. Under modern zero-sum Zionist ideology—or at least those most assertively claiming to speak for it—Jewish rights in the historic land of Palestine are all but unbounded.
The Ukraine-Russia analogy fails because this element of self-determination versus minority rights is entirely missing.
You are aware that there are eight million ethnic Russians living in Ukraine right Paul? Living in a state that isn’t “for” them? Living as “second class citizen” one might say? The rights of non Ukrainians living in a Ukrainian state.
It’s actually quite a good analogy. Now answer my questions.