"I also think that for people who are on the left and who care about international law, this is a clear violation of international law. It was a clear violation of Ukrainian self-determination...this is a war about Ukraine wanting genuine independence, and self-determination, and not wanting to be part of the Russian Empire. And I think …
"I also think that for people who are on the left and who care about international law, this is a clear violation of international law. It was a clear violation of Ukrainian self-determination...this is a war about Ukraine wanting genuine independence, and self-determination, and not wanting to be part of the Russian Empire. And I think those are the kinds of instincts, political instincts, that people on the left rightly tend to support. So, that frames my general belief that the United States was right to support Ukraine, has been right to support Ukraine in the in this war."
Sounds like those people on the left need to read Peter Beinart, because he'll tell you that There Is No Right To A State.
Reading Beinart will teach you that Ukrainians do not have the right to a state of their own, and that the only way to respect both the Ukrainian and Russian rights to national self-determination is to define that right as autonomy, not sovereignty, and therefore a binational state would be better than the current, bigoted, status quo.
Traditional Russian speaking and Russia supporting Ukrainians in the east always had the same full rights of citizenship as the more Europe-aligned comrades in the west, so your contrived analogy to Israel / Palestine fails.
Also the (pre-2014 and current) political entity of Ukraine—like the State of Israel—has no natural right to exist, but exist nonetheless it does for political historical reasons. And because it exists and is recognized by the international community as existing, Russia has no right to violate its sovereignty or threaten it’s territorial integrity.
One outcome I could see as a “two-state” equivalent that there would emerge one or more independent sovereign states in Crimea and the Donbas that would be not be under control of either Ukraine or Russia. Those states would not have any natural right to exist either, but would come into existence by international agreement on redrawn political borders to resolve the crisis, like for South Sudan or the Koreas.
"I also think that for people who are on the left and who care about international law, this is a clear violation of international law. It was a clear violation of Ukrainian self-determination...this is a war about Ukraine wanting genuine independence, and self-determination, and not wanting to be part of the Russian Empire. And I think those are the kinds of instincts, political instincts, that people on the left rightly tend to support. So, that frames my general belief that the United States was right to support Ukraine, has been right to support Ukraine in the in this war."
Sounds like those people on the left need to read Peter Beinart, because he'll tell you that There Is No Right To A State.
https://jewishcurrents.org/there-is-no-right-to-a-state
Reading Beinart will teach you that Ukrainians do not have the right to a state of their own, and that the only way to respect both the Ukrainian and Russian rights to national self-determination is to define that right as autonomy, not sovereignty, and therefore a binational state would be better than the current, bigoted, status quo.
Traditional Russian speaking and Russia supporting Ukrainians in the east always had the same full rights of citizenship as the more Europe-aligned comrades in the west, so your contrived analogy to Israel / Palestine fails.
Also the (pre-2014 and current) political entity of Ukraine—like the State of Israel—has no natural right to exist, but exist nonetheless it does for political historical reasons. And because it exists and is recognized by the international community as existing, Russia has no right to violate its sovereignty or threaten it’s territorial integrity.
One outcome I could see as a “two-state” equivalent that there would emerge one or more independent sovereign states in Crimea and the Donbas that would be not be under control of either Ukraine or Russia. Those states would not have any natural right to exist either, but would come into existence by international agreement on redrawn political borders to resolve the crisis, like for South Sudan or the Koreas.